They have a personality I could work with. Let me exemplify with something from the audio realm. A simple “KISS compliant” AC line cord is what your a product designer would be expected to use. So if equipment measures about the same – and sound very different – what is the point of following measurements when purchasing gear? House wiring is not necessarily “crap”. Again, I’m willing to take the plunge if it makes sense, but as a newbie I’d just like to understand the physics here. I doubt you’ll actually even bother to read this, but here is a link anyway: http://seanolive.blogspot.com/2009/04/dishonesty-of-sighted-audio-product.html?m=1. It comes with the most recent DBS Carbon system. Take a stock Mcintosh PC for their Pre Amps, That cable is a high quality copper # 12 about 1 meter long. For the money – pretty damn good. What’s interesting to me is that you would think someone could listen to 27 cables (actually over 100), write varying notes on those cables, and believe he actually didn’t hear any of those changes. The author is a nobody selling bullshit hifi-products, that’s why they have time to reply to every comment. They promote DIY but will sell the very expensive cedar box finished set if that’s what you want. There will be differences if its malfunctioning or isn’t being filtered correctly. What puzzles me is your choice of length. An intelligent engineer (and problem solver) realizes when technical methodologies apply – and when they don’t. I also don’t have the software necessary. It’s more Wagner than Wagner. Luckily I came across the Zenwave PSR-14 early in my demoing and immediately knew it was the one. So in regards to what’s included or missing, he’ll be able to relay more accurate information. Only one who can swallow an insult is a man. Yeah, I would stick to the Au24 SX power cable. Interestingly enough, it’s only for those first hours. I did, however, have almost all these cables here during the entire review process. I’m glad you’re not one of these Measurement Morons and are open to “hearing it out.” These guys want others to prove something to them, when they won’t even want to prove it to themselves. not sure why i cant reply to Jay’s comment, so i’ll make one here instead. I’m always open to saving money on great sound. Nice review Jay. I’ll have to find time to revisit. This is an opportunity to upgrade your power cords of your reference components to an even higher level. You just expect us to believe that thats what you’ve done. Wondering how it stacked up in your opinion against the “enhanced” and the “ultimate”. You have to understand wires have electrical resistance, and RFI and EMI effects have very little A ( amperage) > In practice it means micro volts and less under normal circumstances ( not living next to a FM broadcasting studio or military radar systems). It was wooly, one note, and off timbre. Regarding that, I think I can also hear noise towards the end for the “generic power cable” portion of the video. And I have no problems calling your ass out. So, is this like Scientology for audio or something? I think a better approach is to sell the virtue of good value audio cables or do an article on $50 cables that have improved amps etc. I personally know what my Mcintosh gear should sound like to ME, NOT you! As you have reviewed, many expensive cords alter the sound signature way too much and cannot be used on multiple components in same system due to additive colorations. A person said, (I don’t know who), “a cable is a potential problem, connecting two more potential problems together”. First of all I have to say when we use all wireworld cables we have to put the “best” cables on the most front end and following this path if we have less quality cable. You should also give the PS Audio PerfectWave AC-5 and PS Audio PerfectWave AC-12 power cables a try. Most of us are very kind and patient to eachother and we’re always in for a heated conversation. You think those engineers have been oblivious to that for decades, and still deliver their high priced electronics with a standard power cord? What it does best is melodic insight. You are the “Navy Seal” of Audio and we are proud to salute you for it and cant thank you enough for your contribution!!! Why are you saying all wall wiring is “crappy stuff” ? Hi Ken! To be honest, there aren’t many publications that perform measurements……..anyway. Dealer said I needed to use all Nordost from start to finish. At this point Jay is just a troll, giving out responses like that. Read it and learn from it. With all of the complicated connectors on some of these high dollar cables it is much more likely that any difference you can notice is due to high resistance in the expensive cable. “here I’ll just call him out as a ‘non-audiophile’, surely that’ll show these pesky evidence-based thinkers and make myself look better to anyone who isn’t already part of my audio voodoo cult”. Also, the author claims they can hear differences in cables, but are unable to show the differences exist with high-precision measurement equipment: there’s no need to correlate the heard difference with measured difference, just to show that there is any measurable difference at all. Even if he made this, it will have no influence on sound – it’s only POWER cable, it cann’t change sound character. Hello and thanks a lot for your great work! But these were my own findings. He had all the goodies, ALL Mcintosh, all expensive, all fairly new. If these final 3 feet mattered then apparently the wires are a filter (an engineer would want to know that). I think you can guess which camp I’m in, and just as I believe (and have been lucky enough to experience first-hand) that cars with the same horsepower x, torque y, and very close weight z, drive/handle COMPLETELY differently, cable “measurements” have little bearing on how it actually performs in the real world. Much Appreciated Tads Glad you found a sound you like. They make good wire though. Although I personally prefer the cheap Neotech or Vovox over many of the much pricier ones due to tonality. Once again, go to the Adelphi and actually listen. One Tellurium Q Statement highend audio power cable in a fantastic condition. You won’t know until you plug in with cables in other words. Because the humans are not good measuring tools ??? Yeah, the Neotech is an interesting cable – you have to make sure the connectors are secure and that you have as much of the cable shielded as possible (that foil is a little annoying). Sorry to say you invested in snake oil, so don’t be surprised by the slew of technical inquiries after going down that rabbit hole using only an anecdotal approach. Furthermore: any competently designed amplifier already filters out the mains crap. Bottom line: If you want measurements to make an informed decision, you are in the wrong place. Secondly, each/every hi-fi component as varying power requirements/demands; throwing a massive #9 gauge AC power cable on all (or any, for that matter) audio component is unwise. Do you often bullshit people? You also dismissed the entire review because there weren’t any charts? I respect you because you have the technical knowledge on tap, but you also have the insight and experience to know that there’s far more to listening to music than measurements. $61.99 to $126.99. As always, I’ll be focusing on subjective impressions. I was curious about their power cords as I’ve heard great things. All Rights Reserved. Every cable offers something different and will probably sound better depending on how you want to balance it. Finally, there remains so much more to be learned and understood when it concerns cable performance phenomena. And had that shit paid for. But yeah, the more trusted machines are over $10,000. These things are all true. Apparently, you’re an objectivist and perhaps a narrow-minded engineer. as for spending $6000 on cables, yeah its nonsense when you can get properly made and spec’d cables for cheap nowadays. Any criticisms, and you won’t be branded as a heretic – they’ll just, with the utmost “civility and elegance” put a hole in your head. That’s, by definition, called “Talking out of your ass.”. If you’re too stubborn or closed-minded to spend the time to do that – then why are you wasting everyone’s time here? $329,000 Loudspeakers – How Do They Sound? Not all engineers master for neutral and many artists will probably say that wasn’t their intent either. YES it did, for about 2 weeks and it settled in. My aim is to find out which products get me closer to what the musicians and directors intended. I can respect that you’d like to, but you didn’t state that in your article. Whatever rows your boat, the important thing is that you’re happy, the guys who make these fancy cables are very likelly very happy that you roll that way too, so is the guy who sells you that stuff, so we’re all happy happy joy. RFI rejection is also a real thing which is why many (not all) of these power cables are shielded. You see us real electronic engineers are in the know. I agree with everything in your review, yet didn’t like it and sold it a few days later. So, IMO, even promoting the concept that you can fix your rig by changing the sound with different cables is not only anti-audiophile, but bad for this hobby overall. I don’t wan’t to be at the mercy of what some company wants to charge me for the cable when manufacturing costs are nowhere near, and I could look for better offer elsewhere. Good luck with the religion and I wish you all reach audio nirvana. I’m guessing it’s modulating the magnetic field caused by the current going through the wire which leads to skin effect, eddy currents, etc – which could change the power supply’s interaction with the analog section of the equipment. About the Shunyata NR cables I think your setup is more of a ”Sigma EF” model setup where you don’t want any AC filtration from the cables themselves. 2 watching. This is what I meant by “your mind plays tricks on you.” And why blind tests aren’t absolute – because our brains aren’t. Also, there are plenty of other reviewers and audiophiles that are hearing the same things (check the comments). In the same way, we don’t fully understand hifi – okay? A couple quick things, and I apologize ahead of time if this seems too combative. You weren’t planning to be constructive. Can I really trust this video you don’t even show the cables or explain your process of testing. Meaning an even amount of tonal color or energy across the spectrum. Thank you for this, great work. Most amplifiers, especially audiophile types do not have a traditional EMR filters. I’m not saying these are facts, because there are always exceptions. I have had a power cable totally dull my system, or make it too hot. You are not even close. No, you haven’t. How to make DIY high-end power cable? Make sure you keep your cables well lubricated with snake oil. Power cables do not change the sound. (And is about as flexible as Romex.). When I tried to make the same cable with the wire – it didnt sound quite right. Amplifier builders, in particular Rogue and Oddessy, will specifically tell you in AB testing they were unable to improve the sound where they test their amps. They are affordable and get a lot of credit by their owners and in tests. You’ll need it. , So…I’m lazy because you “could respect” the fact I couldn’t afford the equipment to measure power cables properly – but you somehow think I wouldn’t have done it anyway based on what? Can Reveal Power Cable produce timbre and life like at the same level like CT-1 Ultimate ? So which of the under $1,000 cables would you say is the most dynamic, open & transparent? Jay, I came across your review article this morning while looking up the Kimber Kable PK10 and glad I did. Currently stock. 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