Most scammers would not want to deal with Counterfeit cash as that is something the police really will follow up. i) In most of these scams the scammers buy their own apps so the scammer and developer are the same entity. @DoctorCalculon: Can't even block it in Austraia if it's outright…. If I bought a car on Gumtree did you want me to bring you a bucket of cash? https://www.apple.com/au/support/products/iphone/, Gumtree is for face to face cash transactions only. Not to say how much to ship it to us with insurance. In this case, the OP was incredibly stupid. Paypal isn't a credit card company and It's not a bank account. You do however have the receivers address as that is where you posted it to. More so since covid started. I agree with your statement. Having said that, I've had experience with Groupon where I told them specifically literally 1 hour after I clicked "Cancel", to disregard the "Cancel" request, they went ahead with it anyway and gave me (credit) refunds after 2-3 days. And in a way I was a huge moron. Take it as a life lesson. @sajidmib: https://mashable.com/article/applecare-plus-theft-and-loss-c.... AppleCare+ with Theft and Loss will include up to two incidents of accidental damage, just like regular old AppleCare+. All these things can be prevented yet there are people who still fall victim to the common tactics then cry foul and blame paypal. Someone on /r/Melbourne was scammed on Gumtree with counterfeit cash last week. You may find further information if you can contact them somehow but at the end of the day, I don't like your chances but you can try. Like every other place on earth that people buy or sell. PayPal just reverses it then. Even if the cancellation was limited to 5 days after gift card redemption, I still reckon it would dramatically hinder the scam. Mobile car wash business for sale.# Due to scams and time wasters I do not respond on Gumtree mail Please pick up the phone and contact me if you are interested #The opportunities are endless and we build to your requirements. There are multiple ways of being scammed even if money arrives with PayPal. If you sell on eBay, you have to be prepared to potentially lose your item. (Scammers use online websites to send anonymous text messages, or messages with fake names). There are multiple ways of getting scammed with everything no matter what payment method you use, but you can only get scammed if you don't cover yourself. Police in Belfast are warning locals about scammers targeting locals through Gumtree and PayPal. Zanco replied a second time with a Queensland Driver’s License of a young man named Zanco. It is why everyone says Gumtree is CASH ONLY. Hello ", "We also encourage anyone who thinks they have come across anything suspicious or concerning to report it to us using the ‘report ad’ function or 24/7 live chat. PayPal is dodgy as shit. This scam was a little complicated but by letting them pay via paypal you left yourself open to this simplest of scams. I had a client this week who listed their Caravan on Gumtree, and straight away, received a text message asking them if the caravan was available, the condition of the caravan and to email them the details with the best price (sound familiar?). Is Signed Credit Quote with Clawback Clause Legally Enforceable by The Broker? Someone on /r/Melbourne was scammed on Gumtree with counterfeit cash last week. ). The listing itself was simple. thats my belief anyway. Most of time the people that claim this happened to them have done something stupid and have altered their story like leaving their keys in an unlocked parked car but leaving that part out when telling the story. Hi everyone, so recently I got scammed on Gumtree by this person named "Elizabeth Beyer" (apparently one of my friends also got scammed by the same person). Rest assured, I will not hesitate to report you to gumtree/Police and Property agents). It's a fact of life which is why buyers and sellers should always protect themselves just incase. Scammed on Gumtree -- what to do. Who exactly have I scammed ?! …or just checked the paypal account to see that no money had been transferred…, Yes but can't the buyer reverse a paypal transfer or dispute it. Unfair to pass that on to the seller who had nothing to do with the breach. And in my case when I did, the buyer claimed they were hacked and paypal put my account in negative as though it was my fault. Plus baby boom during covid, so many people needing a life lesson in a couple of years, great opportunities! So depending on how quickly did you tell them (say, after 12 hours), then you would think it's Australia Post's negligence, wouldn't you? On Gumtree, this means being polite and observant when buying or selling. @wozz: Yeah, there are variants of every type of scam that have always been around which grow and change as technology develops. There are no reversals or chargebacks. Someone can only gift the money back. People who get scammed like this will get scammed no matter what payment method they use. Like you have never even used what you are talking about and are basing all your information on third party information from the people who got scammed. When in fact the cars are often missing parts or in bad condition. Posted by 4 hours ago. If you are using websites like Gumtree, cash is best. I was tempted to throw a "chargeback" card but that's another story to tell. "Go get help, you need to talk to someone". The one time I had a return, I filmed myself opening the package. 1st Thief’s details; MARTINA BECK Toongabbie, NSW M: Commonwealth Bank BSB: 062-293 ACC: ****4553 2nd Thief’s details; ADAM ELIAS Toongabbie (claims to be in Victoria) M: If you are buying anything please check these details t What if many people got scammed and asked for this? People can blame companies like Paypal, but at the end of the day if you didn't cover yourself and fell for known scams then the blame is on you, like it is with the OP and hopefully the lesson is learned. @funnysht: i have thought of that, $5-$10k is only a little more than a very thick wallets worth. Cops warn Scots over £50 fake bank notes after sellers scammed on Gumtree Daniel Morrow. They got scammed and almost always via known and obvious methods too. They all are, but like all things, the only way this happens is when someone gets a hold of someone elses password, or pin or CC number etc. Lisa Du is director of ReadyTechGo, a service that helps people gain the confidence and skills to embrace modern technology. Try before you buy. Basically you need to prove online delivery for paypal protection on a collection item you dont get … Working professional with 3 kids looking for long-term rental in Ellenbrook prefer 5x2 or large 4x2 with a theatre room,shutters, air-conditioning,pool an absolute plus. No one pays full price off gumtree unless it's listed as a bargain price of the century. What’s stopping these scammers? What's your point? Different story, same trick in the end. @SnoozeAndLose: that was the thing, yes i fully agree, now i can see the offer was a bit to good to be true so much so that its a little funny and humiliating, now i can see the offer was a bit to good to be true. Get all the latest Over60 news, offers and articles. Not 100% as they can say to the credit card provider it was fraudulent transaction (or use a stolen credit card). Do you have AppleCare - you can say it was lost and get a new one? Australia Post won't do a thing. Like with a debit card, credit card, Apple Pay/Google pay or any other form of payment or an ebay account or Amazon account or any other online account. That's what they specialise in, and they know all the scams and have the regulations in place. she then told us to send the phone to Texas, so we did, quite confidently. The scammer sends a message to the Seller, asking the seller to email them. There are no reversals or chargebacks. A transaction should always be made face-to-face with the buyer and seller, with payment made once the goods have been inspected or the services completed. Being my first gumtree purchase, I was unaware of the scamming that goes on. Opinions/advice needed. Many people do. Hopefully you will be more suspicious of person-to-person online transactions in future. The way I see it if a buyers paypal account was "hacked", that is paypal's problem and lack of control, they absorb the cost of their refund scheme. This is just showing how many people are unaware and ripe for scamming. @gromit: The ADF even. When my suspicions were aroused, that’s what I did. It's 2020. How exactly is the OP going to go about blocking the IMEI in the US? It can appear quite legitimate! What Was The Longest Time You Took to Return Something Unopened or Near New to Bunnings. Like sending money to family/friends. I decided to do a Google Search of "Gumtree scams" and found that many people had fallen victim to scams just like the message I received from Sue! In other cases, people ignore the advised ways of doing things and wander outside of the range of protection. @funnysht: Same is true for ebay transactions too. The proof needed needs to just as strong if not stronger than claiming for everything else. You can always dispute it and things will always fall in your favour. @Freezies: It is NOT 100% safe at all. Once the account was reported as hacked by the actual owner the payment was promptly reversed by PayPal who immediately set debt collectors on me! thought you can only block it in Australia? As far as I know, Australia Post never straight away send stuff overseas straight away (It would take a few days before products leave Australia for obvious bulk-posting reason). Apple takes a cut of every sale in the app store. That Paypal is somehow the only one that could be hacked or stolen? No it's not. It's like your head is frozen in time many years ago with very simple understanding of how it works. Paypal or the credit provider can reverse the transaction if it is claimed as fraud or using a stolen account, a very common tactic of scammers. We also suggest taking someone with you to meet your buyer/seller. At this least time it only cost your $1k, Not chicken feed, but could have been worse! Yes he could of lost $10k. got scammed a month's rent in advance from a Gumtree apartment rental listing for an address that wasn't actually an apartment building It happens to international students quite a lot. I think the US has the cheapest iPhone selling price. Yes in this instance it was a facepalm easy scam due to him not checking, but even if he had the money there are multiple ways he could have lost out. Obviously wrong. Don't feel bad, almost everyone on earth has been conned before. Sorry for your loss, nothing you can do now. No it isn't the same as just using cash at all. I Got Scammed on Gumtree, and Was Wondering if There's a Solution? we rang AusPost I am already in talks with the courier that will handle the pick-up and delivery. This is just the beginning.”. https://mobilemonster.com.au/sell-your-phone/samsung/galaxy-... i suppose this is another lesson that it never hurts to ask for help once in a while no matter how proud you are ðŸ˜, "As soon as we sent my phone we found out the transaction was a fake and that we needed to get the phone back. Opinions/advice needed. @Freezies: If you think PayPal is 100% safe (or even 95% safe), you are waiting in the queue to be scammed. it is a problem, but incredibly rare compared to the much more common paypal scams. It doesn't cost $100 to send a phone from Melbourne with Australia Post. Archive View Return to standard view. Not sure why you are getting negged. We are a community marketplace, so we always encourage members to buy and sell locally. The transaction occurs via email, where the scammer says they will pay via PayPal. please check this out because I almost lost £1000 camera and possibly money from my PayPal account. Paypal have nothing to do with it. Show Printable Version; 29th April 2017, 05:31 PM #1. It's digital and even logging in from a different phone or PC sets off triggers. straight away and told them about the incident and what we wanted to happen, they then told us that they were going to let it reach Chicago and then turn it around then, from one thing after the other it got closer to it destination and then it said it was delivered. Then always keep proof for yourself. Like sending money to family/friends. It's easier stealing credit card details or a debit card and pin yet requires just as much if not more proof that it was stolen as digital wallets also have a digital trail including log ins and IPs. Can be disputed but no idea what the success rate was. A concert ticket scammer who netted about $10,000 selling counterfeit concert tickets on Facebook and Gumtree avoids jail after being sentenced to … This is completely FALSE. https://mashable.com/article/applecare-plus-theft-and-loss-c... Read This before Buying an Engagement Ring! Paypal payment - it should be instant except it is a cheque. So about 2 weeks ago I saw a used cpu on gumtree, fairly good price too. @asun88: I always wonder if they do things like that (transferring car to another state), why can't cops just manufacture stint like that and catch the crooks on the spot? I think there has to be exception for this kind of situation. thanks for your help. Most people don't need that lesson. Not to worry, At least you can take a good life lesson to learn away from this. If you are the seller, you are at the mercy of the buyer disputing the transaction (whether paid through bank or card). Re: Is this a Paypal Scam on Gumtree I HAD THE SAME THING HAPPEN TO ME Great! Gumtree is filled to the brim with scammers looking for people to rip off, PayPal is one of their favourite mechanisms to enable this. so if all went well for her she would have a phone and an additional $1,000 to go with it. It's cash without having to carry cash and you get a receipt. Of course it would be costly but would you rather seeing yourself getting scammed in slow motion and helpless at the same time? While most community members have a positive experience, on occasion bad seeds do target Gumtree users. The payment happened through PayPal but not within GumTree's website. Loses $1,000 and we get a star wars reference and 18 upvotes. @funnysht: yes, very easy to dispute and win, cash only for gumtree. Then according to ABC News, one of three events will occur: 1. the money was not sent to my parents account, but the fake receipt has been sent to fool us. There are scammers and pricks everywhere. And that's direct to BSB and account number, as Payee ID (mobile number) can still be reversed (if within 24 hours). The buyer suddenly demands a refund on the fake transaction, 3. Hi in the last week I listed 4 things on Gumtree, with 2 mins of listing a new item each time I get pestered by people, usually foreign, claimimng to be from insurance claims companies offering me compensation. ive been to so many places trying to find out how i could try get my hard earned cash back but no one can help, what do you think i can do". PayPal Friends & Family is direct debit with bank account only. Close. Could he not have just done a PayPal invoice and opted in for buyer protection? Gumtree warns users to look out for the following signs: Messages that ask you to log in or make a payment quickly before your ad is deleted or … A Gumtree spokesperson said, "The safety of our community is our number one priority. After working out that it would cost me over $100 in fees, I decided to give Gumtree a go, as it is free to list and there are no fees involved. @HarrisonA: Greed overcome you. @gromit: Nothing is ever 100% safe in that regard as you can get robbed carrying cash, bank transfers and credit card payments can all be disputed too. If you have a SIM only plan, then good luck getting the IMEI blocked by any provider here once you find your device stolen. People seem to be completely unaware of the fact that in person to person Paypal transactions, most of the time you are doing a straight transfer without buyer/seller protection which is the same as using cash. (afaik? means it could have been 'worse' as in they could have lost more than $1k….. @JimmyF: "means it could have been 'worse' as in they could have lost more than $1k…..". I believe it is fairly safe. If it is really that common….. @burningrage: Cops firstly couldn't care less, secondly the story is the same that they have paid you extra to cover the transit cost. You don't even need to worry about IMEI blocking as the thief will be carrying a brick once they attempt to re-setup the device. @DoctorCalculon: That's not an IMEI block though. Honestly, if this is all true then no, there's nothing you can do. He flies to the US and someone shoots him? I would not bother with gumtree. I currently have my mountain bike on gumtree, this morning I got a txt from 07 (edited) asking me to email sharonshayluv “at” (edited).com ( wouldn’t let me post the email address properly) about my bike so I did. It's probably not even a she and no way in hell that's the real name. Online trade and interactions are growing exponentially – as are reports and speculation about scams perpetrated on free platforms. You're the one who sounds incredibly naive. a claim of a fraudulent transaction will still result in a chargeback/reversal and requires far less proof than a bank. Common sense is important too – if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. Banks, digital payments and credit card companies can't cover you if you stray outside of protection laws either and they can't protect you from your own mistakes. Whirlpool Forums Addict reference: whrl.pl/ReKJzm. I sell many unwanted goods online, as it's a great way to convert unwanted items into cash. if we have proof could you get the uspis to pursue the case? Did it affect your credit ratings ? last updated – posted 2016-Nov-10, 4:47 pm AEST posted 2016-Nov-10, 4:47 pm AEST User #99958 2243 posts. Also, I didn't realise at the time, but when I re-read the original Text Message, the sender says "sue" (instead of a mobile phone number). The OP got scammed in the dumbest of way because they were greedy and stupid. i saw everyone as a buyer/customer and i didn't take into account that it just could be a scammer. we warned the Usps about what was happening and it still went straight through there fingers. @gromit: Russian roulette? That use to buy a first car at 17 years of age. yes, i have found many scammers out before but for some reason this time it didn't click. PayPal chargebacks are rife and a seller's worst enemy. Scammed on gumtree, any chance finding seller? Apple now will take into consideration theft or loss as part of the two incidents. We previously moved to restrict the sale of items that were in high demand such as hand sanitisers and PPE, and will move to do the same if required. All trademarks are owned by their respective owners.OzBargain is an independent community website which has no association with nor endorsement by the respective trademark owners. Before I go on, I should point out that it isn’t Gumtree trying to scam anyone. I’d prepare for your pending interview next week...’ She replied back ‘ I don’t know what your talking about? DroidR2. @HarrisonA: In my opinion I would just avoid selling anything interstate and keep it local. Yet for some reason, the OP just believed the scammer even though no money had arrived in their Paypal and posted the item to the other side of the world thinking they had been paid double what the phone is worth. Ruthless. Either cash or a bank cheque that we go to the bank together to deposit or alternatively you can transfer the money while we are at the branch together. Paypal is instant trasfer and always shows in your own account instantly. then you would think it's Australia Post's negligence, wouldn't you? At this least time it only cost your $1k, Not chicken feed, but could have been worse! Campaigners call for UK and EU bans on plastic 'sample' sachets. They have much better protection against this stuff than banks do. How much do you think manual intervention costs in a systematized delivery process like this? Why people jump on Paypal like it's some unsafe method is just such an old mentality and usually due to ignorance of how it works and what it's different uses are. Even today, I always take a photo before and after opening any parcel. You don't use the same paypal method in person as you would for an online transactions and you don't use the same method for personal and consumer transactions either. Which apparently would of been much worse for a 17 year. The end.. @Freezies: There was a paypal/evmbay scam going around a while back was scammer buying something expensive on ebay with paylal, claiming it was faulty when they received it, then returning it. You had a $1000 phone!? straight away and told them about the incident and what we wanted to happen, they then told us that they were going to let it reach Chicago and then turn it around then, from one thing after the other it got closer to it destination and then it said it was delivered. by the time we found out she was a scammer, and we had just posted the phone. With the issue of my details, transferring the name of ownership and signing of all paperwork will be done by the freight agent so you don't have to worry about that. Zanco sent through an image of a Female US Passport, in which my client replied stating "perhaps an incorrect ID was attached?" Going to be a walk in the park for these guys. There are multiple points that you should see that there is an issue. 😂😂’ I replied ‘ you know what I am talking about.’ Indeed, as one of Australia’s favourite places to sell and buy stuff, Gumtree is aware of these things. Get the latest Over60 news, offers and articles. Safest way before shipping anything is direct deposit. Things like this happened long before ebay and Paypal came about. Hey guys, not sure if I'm posting in the right place for this but any advice is appreciated. This is one of the most sophisticated phishing scams I have ever seen. They will not help you with IMEI blocking as you did not buy the device from them. Another scam to be wary of. We placed an add on Gum-tree, and this person named Charlotte Oliver wanted to buy my phone for $1,000. @hypie: Correct. sallyjenese@gmail.com Email her directly Thx". It is considered a gift and is a one time instant transaction that can't be disputed or charged back. Might get a cheap car, then pay almost $1000 again for rego and a heap more for insurance. she said she had paid $1000 (with proof of a fake Pay-Pal notice, but the payment never came through and never will). @Freezies: Has, as a victim of a PayPal scam I laugh at your suggestion that it's just like a credit card/bank account transfer. It's easy to read all the stories of the people saying they got scammed but people don't tell their stories when things go fine, yet that is the overwhelming vast majority of all transactions. we rang AusPost You can't just hack or steal a paypal account. Its safest to have the money in your hand. (that's when it got strange) we couldn't find any trace of the money, she then said that it was because we had to pay her back $1,000 for us to receive our payment of $1,000. Copyright © 2006-2021 OzBargain ABN: 26 144 073 772. Looking for Recommendations on a Free Podcast App for iOS/Windows. Paypals entire business is transactions. Nothing is scam proof, but when you use your brains and do things the way they are meant to be done, you are protected from them. Almost half the people I've deal with on Gumtree and Facebook market use P2P paypal. They make "payment", sending the seller a fake PayPal transaction summary. Nine times out of ten, when someone get scammed, they then turn around and blame something else and everyone mobs together with the same stories as they have all fallen for the most common scam tactics. I was really, really close to being scammed yesterday on Gumtree, which makes me sound like a huge moron. It's paypal, you are 50-50 screwed no matter how you do it with them if you come across a scammer. How about PayPal friend to friend if it hits your account are you safe ? There always have been, there always will be. Like all things, you have to stay within the protection guidelines and use your brains and judgement. Please do tell. It sucks for all the people who get scammed, but that's just the thing. But yes, there are ways to block the phones via software. This is a lesson for the boy - women are expensive. And you didn't catch any STDs, which with 1'000 spend in other ways, could be quite easy. If the potential buyer suggests paying you via PayPal or online banking, be mindful. Thread Tools. No need to be so polite and call her Charlotte. WARNING: I was Scammed on Gumtree. People who get scammed will get scammed no matter what the method but usually only fall for it once then they learn. Your telco will only block the SIM card from further misuse until you transfer the number out to another SIM card. How hard would it be for Apple to cancel some gift cards and reverse the electronic transactions putting the kibosh on these scams? We also recommend everyone using Gumtree should visit our Help section for tips on how to have a safe and successful experience and to be vigilant when using any online marketplace.”. If lost or stolen, you'll need to have Find My iPhone enabled on your device at the time it went missing in order to have Apple honor a replacement. I know this can happen but very rare, this itself enough to raise an alarming bell. Are they indirectly claiming seller did that? People need to educate themselves. Maybe I should start this business 😂, yes, Claire Cobbledick, GM of Gumtree South Africa says that while prevention is better than cure, victims who find themselves out of pocket due to an online scam should report the incident immediately. Its an expensive mistake and lesson to learn but you'll never make it again. we did our research and found out other people had been done by the same trick. Do you know how many people get robbed of their cash on gumtree and Facebook market etc? They would then send back a parcel with something else in it, but provide valid tracking info. A buyer from US - US seller phone cheaper than Australia even with the secondhand phone, why would someone from US want to pay more + shipping from AU? I'm guessing they'd argue it's bad for the developers because they're reversing transactions. Anyone Here Used Hostmate for Web/Email Hosting? Then they will ask you to transfer the excess to a bank account which you will never get your money back. You mean, it was not sent to your parents account. Nothing is ever 100% safe in that regard as you can get robbed carrying cash, bank transfers and credit card payments can all be disputed too. It's not difficult to outsmart the scammers especially when it comes to well known scams. The client contacted ReadyTechGo for our thoughts, and we played along with "Zanco", asking Zanco to send us his ID so that we can get things rolling. Results 1 to 10 of 15 Thread: WARNING: I was like! 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